Aside from sitting on the board of a
number of blue chip companies in Nigeria, Professor Taiwo Osipitan, a seasoned
Senior Advocate of Nigeria (SAN) teaches Criminal and Constitutional Law, as
well as Law of Evidence at the University of Lagos. He is the head of department of Public Law at the university as well. In this
interview with STEPHEN UBIMAGO, he discusses the poor adaptability of legislative
instruments in Nigeria to ever increasing new developments, saying the National Assembly should
be blamed for the trend. He also touched on the controversial subject of immunity clause...
What do law reforms really entail?
Law reforms
involve periodic review of the law. It is an acknowledgement of the fact that
the law will need to respond to developments in society. That is, a law that is
good for society some twenty years ago may become outdated because of
developments in society. For example, when we began with the Evidence Act and
Criminal Code, nobody knew about electronic typewriter, as they were
non-existent then; nobody knew about the email; what we had then was the
telegraph. Nobody knew about e-contract, e-evidence, etc. But suddenly,
computer and electronic devices came into being. By the time those laws were
enacted, the makers of the law hardly contemplated those developments. These
developments necessitate the need to go back to the drawing board, and see how
the law could be amended to respond to developments in society.
Are state institutions proactive
enough in adapting Nigeria’s laws to new developments?
No. My
experience has been that our laws are not responding quickly enough to
developments in society. Our laws have most of the time trailed behind. We are
left behind such that we do not know whether to argue that judges should embark
on judicial activism aimed at ensuring that there are no lacunae in the laws.
Respecting tardiness in adapting the
laws to new developments, which institutions of state may be blamed?
The lawmakers,
of course. There are three arms of government: the executive, the lawmaking body
and the judiciary. It is the duty of the lawmakers to enact laws; the executive
execute laws; and of course, maybe the executive should share in the blame in
the sense that the executive can identify areas where reforms are needed and
sponsor bills, called executive bills, to the National Assembly. But since the
primary duty of lawmaking is that of the National Assembly, we expect them to
review the law periodically.
What about the Nigerian Law Reforms
Commission (NLRC)
Yes, that’s
why I said the executive should also share in the blame. The Law Reforms
Commission has the responsibility of researching into our laws, and seeing the
areas reforms are needed. But I tell you something, they are also handicapped.
I know, for example, that there was a bill for insurance law reform, which was
more or less sponsored by the National Insurance Commission (NICOM), the
regulatory body of insurance practice in Nigeria. They sponsored the bill based
on researches, and debates here and there on how to have an all inclusive
insurance law that will address the challenges of the insurance industry and
business in Nigeria. I believe it has been there for three years now before the
National Assembly; yet they’ve not been able to pass the bill into law. Again,
I’m aware that ICAN had also had cause to see how they can amend the ICAN Law.
And indeed there was a public hearing on it some four years ago. We have yet to
see the bill. So I am saying that the lawmaking arm of government at the
central level is not responding as quickly as possible. Or maybe what they
really need is a sub-committee of the National Assembly devoted entirely to the
subject of law reforms. So if you have them in place, it will become their duty
to push out these reforms as sponsored by the executive, etc. Perhaps we need
such a committee to drive the said reforms with greater ease.
Despite the cache of anti-corruption
legislations, namely, ICPC and the EFCC Acts, the Money Laundering and
Forfeiture Acts, Criminal and Penal Codes, among others, Nigeria’s leading
challenge as a state still remains corruption. Where are we not getting it
right?
The laws are
there, I always say to people. But the ability to administer justice without
fear or favour is where the problem lies. For example, the judges will only
condemn or sentence people who are brought before them and against whom you
have evidence. But if you look at it today, we have not even prosecuted
one-hundredth of the people who are involved in corruption. Along the line, you
have other people who are either not caught or who have compromised. Take it or
leave it, corruption has become a cancer in the Nigerian society, such that
those people who are not corrupt are seen as abnormal. So there is need for us
to have change of attitude. The issue, therefore, is not about the law, but
about the human beings who either apply the law or are governed by it.
Is the judiciary also corrupt?
Unfortunately,
they are not immune. The cancer that is plaguing the country does not respect
the judiciary. Yet I believe there are many in the bench who are not corrupt;
many of them have pedigree, and are able to hold their heads above water. But
unfortunately, in some courts, right from the head to the bottom, it is
corruption galore. And those who are not corrupt among them, are victimised and
posted to the bush indiscriminately. Once the head, for example, the chief
judge of a state is corrupt, it is not difficult for corruption to trickle
down; and those who are not corrupt there are victimised. And it is so bad in some
states that there is no difference between the chief judge, the judiciary and
the executive. There is so much unholy romance between the judiciary in some
states and the executive such that people seem to have lost confidence in such
state courts, and they now have cause to start looking for how to take their
cases to either the Federal High Court or outside the state. But by and large
majority of the judges in the country are okay. The very few corrupt ones are
the ones giving the judiciary a bad name.
We learn there are certain gaps in
the criminal procedure rules, which defence lawyers manipulate to frustrate
trial lawyers. What are these gaps, and how can we plug them in the light of
law reforms?
Well there
are no laws that are completely gap-free. We are, however, obligated to plug
the gaps should they prove to be hindering the cause of justice. Take
interlocutory appeals and stay of proceeding, for example. Somebody applies to
quash a charge, and it is refused. It would appear that the EFCC Act had taken
care of it. But really the Act is talking about offences under the EFCC Act for
which there can be no stay of proceeding. Indeed offences under the Act are
there; they do not extend to the Criminal Code and others. Then again, the
right of appeal is a right given under the Constitution. The EFCC Act is an
existing law; therefore, if there is a provision like that, which tends to
limit, affect or hinder the full exercise of the constitutional right of
appeal, it’s null and void, except we go back to the Constitution and insert
that provision there outlawing interlocutory appeals. Or if it’s not outlawed,
such provision should state that upon an interlocutory appeal, there will be no
stay of proceeding. Until you do that, there is a problem. There is also a gap
from the viewpoint of defence lawyers. They can’t trust some of the judges that
preside over criminal trials. Some of them are timid such that they are swayed
by public opinion. There are some convictions that ought not to take place at
all. But people have been convicted simply because they’d already been
convicted in the court of public opinion. Judges are now afraid of what the
public will say.
Is that not also the problem of law?
Not really.
Note, members of the public, with due respect, did not study law. They don’t
know anything about burden and standard of proof, that is, proof beyond
reasonable doubt. That is the exclusive area of lawyers. I don’t know how a
surgeon, for example, can be afraid to perform an operation, because he will be
criticised by the public. I don’t know how an estate surveyor will be afraid of
doing evaluation because of what the public will say. But it does appear that
some of our judges are afraid of what the public will say. Yet they are
learned, but the public is not learned in the area of law. When did it devolve
on the public to decide who is guilty or not guilty? So defence lawyers are
also being very cautious, since they cannot be too sure that decisions are
based on the evidence before the court, but on prior condemnation by the
public. So at every opportunity available defence lawyers go on appeal.
Let’s connect your last comment to
the recent Abuja High Court judgment in which a two-year jail term with an
option of N800,000 fine was passed on one John Yakubu Yusuf who is said to have
stolen N27 billion belonging to the Police Pensions Fund
Well that is
most unfortunate in the sense that the sentence, from my own point of view, is
light. He was found guilty the way the public wanted him to be found guilty.
Maybe the judge really didn’t believe, based on the evidence before him, that
the man should be found guilty. But perhaps the fear of public anger made him convict
him of the offence. The judgement seems like he was only providing him a window
of escape.
He was tried under the Penal Code.
Could he not have been tried under a far more stiff provision of a graver
legislation, say, EFCC Act?
I think the
Penal Code provided for seven years imprisonment. If twelve or ten or seven years
jail term appears in a criminal legislation that can only mean the maximum.
Meaning you cannot sentence him beyond that maximum, but you can go below. So
the judge has discretion in this respect. But one will expect that the
discretion should be exercised judicially and judiciously in accordance with
settled principles of law. But members of the public don’t know; and indeed not
many lawyers know about the principle of maximum and minimum sentencing.
Perhaps he would be right if he says the offence of stealing shall attract a
minimum of seven years imprisonment without option of fine. If that is the
case, then we can now say, yes, he has done something very, very outrageous.
But we know the sentencing policy that legally he’s covered. But obviously,
though covered, what may be faulted if the judge is exercising his discretion
in this regard.
It has been argued that the immunity clause
under s. 308 of the Constitution provides cover for governors to pursue corrupt
self-enrichment. That section is anachronistic. Isn’t it?
Well, like
I’ve said, everybody in Nigeria now is a lawyer, both trained and untrained.
And everything is debated and settled on the pages of newspapers, which is very
unfortunate. You have to look at the history behind the immunity clause. The
art of governance is a superior issue. And that you do not want a situation
where a governor, whilst he’s there, is looking behind him and saying, ‘I’m
going to court to testify.’ So the immunity clause is not limited to criminal
cases. It also applies to civil cases. Why are we singling out criminal cases?
Do you want the clause also to be removed from civil cases in which case your
governor is in and out of court on daily basis? What time will he have to
settle down to governance? A case is fixed for Monday, which is Exco Day in
Lagos State. Do you expect Governor Fashola to go and testify in court in a
civil matter in which he has been sued, or in which a subpoena has been issued
against him? Once you have a subpoena, you must go to court. So, for example,
Governor Fashola, will then have to go to court on Exco Day – maybe two or
three Excos in a quarter. Meaning he has to step down other pressing state
functions, because he must give preference to the court, otherwise a case of
contempt of court may arise against him. For this reason, they need one hundred
per cent concentration and attention. There is a Fawehinmi’s case involving
Tinubu whereby he got an order of court declaring that immunity does not extend
to investigation. Thus you don’t have to wait for a governor to finish his term
of office before commencing investigation on him. You can collect your evidence
whilst he’s in office. And once he’s out of office, you can prosecute him.
Wouldn’t the governor use his high
office to obstruct investigation?
I don’t
think so. The governors are endangered species. They have more enemies in
government than friends. The document they need for prosecuting them can be
produced by civil servants who are aggrieved. The civil servants are the most
aggrieved set of human beings around. And for no cause at all, they will bring
out the evidence on demand. So you can do your investigation discretely whilst
the governor is in office. It is not a perpetual immunity. But what do you
find? Nobody investigates them until they leave office; by then the evidence
had disappeared. There is still power to investigate. There is no immunity
against investigation. They can gather the evidence when it is fresh, and wait
for him. You don’t have to interrogate him. When he’s finished his office then
you can proceed. But what obtains in Nigeria is that they will even arrest the
person before they begin to gather evidence against him. That itself is breach
of the person’s right to personal liberty. You don’t arrest until you are ready
to take the person to court. But the
EFCC and other agencies, would rather first arrest, make noise on pages of newspapers
before they start interrogating witnesses. That is wrong. There is no immunity
against investigation. So why are they not investigating the governors?
Former Governor Peter Odili of Rivers
State is said to have obtained a perpetual injunction against his appearing
before a court for trial respecting his time in office. Can you throw light on
this?
It’s
unfortunate that such a decision can come out. But what has the prosecution
done? Have they appealed the injunction? Or have they prosecuted the appeal
diligently. Judges are entitled at High Court level to take decisions. It you
find a decision unpalatable, the next thing to do is to go on appeal and set it
aside. Not just shouting that it is unpalatable. I expect the prosecution to go
ahead and appeal the decision. And that kind of decision, even if it comes
before another judge, it is not binding on him; he can refuse to follow it. So
it is not a precedent binding on courts of coordinate jurisdiction. It is just
an isolated case.
Would you agree with the view that
acts of terrorism has remained unchecked owing to inadequate laws for dealing
with the menace?
I don’t
think so. For example, the EFCC Act makes the work of the EFCC to include
investigation and prosecution of terrorism and terrorists. In the Penal and
Criminal Code, there is also provision to tackle acts of kidnapping and
terrorism. A crime may not be committed if the criminal knows that if he is
caught, he’ll be dealt with decisively. But what do you have? How many of them
have been caught and prosecuted based on empirical evidence? In fact many of
them have reportedly escaped custody. Intelligence gathering is very key.
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